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		<title>Counting to 90</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Moran, Esq.</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week I have apparently discovered bankruptcy lawyers who can&#8217;t count to 90.  Amazing, isn&#8217;t it?  Yet I&#8217;ve reviewed two cases where counsel failed to file the case  such that judgment liens fell within the 90 day preference period.  And these were cases where the liens had six figure totals and the debtor had assets....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://www.bankruptcymastery.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/the-count.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-604" style="border: 2px solid black; margin-top: 15px; margin-bottom: 15px;" title="the count" src="http://www.bankruptcymastery.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/the-count-300x265.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="265" /></a>This week I have apparently discovered bankruptcy lawyers who can&#8217;t count to 90.  Amazing, isn&#8217;t it?  Yet I&#8217;ve reviewed two cases where counsel failed to file the case  such that judgment liens fell within the 90 day preference period.  And these were cases where the<strong> liens had six figure totals</strong> and the <strong>debtor had assets</strong>.</p>
<p>To review:  a judgment lien perfected within 90 days of filing may be avoided, and rendered unsecured, if the requirements of <a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode11/usc_sec_11_00000547----000-.html" target="_blank">§ 547</a> are met.  Where I practice, judgment liens are perfected in<strong> real property by recording an abstract </strong>where the real estate is located, and in<strong> personal property, by filing a notice of judgment</strong> with the Secretary of State.</p>
<p>So, your<a title="More on the initial client meeting" href="http://www.bankruptcymastery.com/maximizing-the-initial-client-interview/" target="_blank"> intake procedure</a> has to search out these transfers at the beginning, and if there&#8217;s a transfer within the period that you want to avoid,  you must calendar the last day to file the case and preserve the right to avoid.  Judgment liens are discoverable on the public record, and there&#8217;s little defense to not looking for them if the client has assets that may be diminished by the perfection of such a lien.</p>
<p>Given the distractible nature of our clients, it may be difficult to keep the client focused and on track to get you want you need to file timely.  I suggest that if you aren&#8217;t getting full cooperation, you paper your file with a warning letter to the client about the costs of delay.</p>
<p>Many clients are petrified of the filing of a suit, but others are indifferent as to what happens next.   They may have chosen to ignore suit, and sometimes even fail to tell you about it or supply the pleadings.</p>
<p>Like most things in this practice, the amount of energy and expense you devote to independent investigation of situation is guided by the situation of the client.</p>
<p>But having identified a meaningful preference, start the countdown to 90.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll talk another day about preferential transfers the debtor might not want to avoid.  But counting is required there too.</p>
<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">Image courtesy of <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tifotter/" target="_blank">Tifotter</a></span></p>
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		<title>Clients to avoid: those with bankruptcy-adverse spouses</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Moran, Esq.</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you scope out the world view of  your prospect&#8217;s non filing spouse? I didn&#8217;t and I&#8217;m sorry.  The client was full of guilt about the financial situation and kept insisting at our first meeting that &#8220;no one should be hurt but him&#8221; as a result of the financial predicament leading to bankruptcy.  That situation...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Do you scope out the world view of  your prospect&#8217;s non filing spouse?</strong></p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t and I&#8217;m sorry.  The client was full of guilt about the financial situation and kept insisting at our first meeting that &#8220;no one should be hurt but him&#8221; as a result of the financial predicament leading to bankruptcy.  That situation included back taxes on a joint return.</p>
<p>Now the non filing wife is spitting mad because she thinks that she was &#8220;promised&#8221; that the bankruptcy case would have &#8220;absolutely no impact&#8221; on her.  And she&#8217;s concocted some reason that she thinks has/will/might adversely affect her.  The client of  course claims it (whatever it is) is all my fault.</p>
<p>Somehow the wife has lost track of the fact that the family owes a fistful of money, including at least two years of back taxes.  But, in her mind, none of the perceived trouble is the result of the debts, but is traceable to the bankruptcy.</p>
<p>Maybe I should have seen the client&#8217;s initial desire to take all the responsibility for the situation on himself as<strong> not guilt</strong>, but <strong>fear</strong> of the irrational spouse.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to figure out how to manage the situation when I believe much of the wife&#8217;s fears are irrational and unfounded.  Some of the consequences here may be unavoidable.  But it&#8217;s uncomfortable being caught between the two spouses.</p>
<p>Add &#8220;reasonable expectations of the non filing spouse&#8221; to<a href="http://www.bankruptcymastery.com/develop-a-bankruptcy-filing-checklist/" target="_blank"> your checklist</a> of essential client characteristics.</p>
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		<title>Bankruptcy Schedules Call For Payoff Balance</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Moran, Esq.</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bankruptcy debtors hear something different when their lawyer asks, &#8220;What do you owe on your mortgage&#8221;. It&#8217;s as though they speak a different language,  Client, while we speak Bankruptcy.  As  bankruptcy lawyers, we need to be bilingual. It shouldn&#8217;t be a trick question, but all too often the answer a bankruptcy lawyer gets back is...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_266" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.bankruptcymastery.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Babel_fish_badge1.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-266" style="border: 2px solid black; margin: 10px;" title="Babel_fish_badge" src="http://www.bankruptcymastery.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Babel_fish_badge1-300x166.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="166" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Babel fish from Hitchhiker&#39;s Guide to the Galaxy</p></div>
<p>Bankruptcy debtors hear something different when their lawyer asks, &#8220;What do you owe on your mortgage&#8221;. It&#8217;s as though they speak a different language, <strong> Client,</strong> while we speak <strong>Bankruptcy</strong>.  As  bankruptcy lawyers, we need to be bilingual.</p>
<p>It shouldn&#8217;t be a trick question, but all too often the answer a bankruptcy lawyer gets back is the <strong>principal balance</strong>.  Gone, somehow, are the arrears and corporate advances much less all the junk fees the homeowner knows nothing about.</p>
<p>It is the <strong>payoff balance</strong> that you want for the bankruptcy schedules:  principal, interest, and everything else owed to the lender to obtain release of the lien.  Knowing the arrears is important for the means test and for the plan, in Chapter 13.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s also vital when you are considering a lien strip in Chapter 13.  You may need every dollar owed to the senior lender to push the junior lien over the edge of the equity.</p>
<p>So, once again, don&#8217;t take the client&#8217;s input at face value.  Probe to find out if the number you&#8217;re given for the mortgage debt includes any arrearages.  Develop your linguistic skills in Client-speak.</p>
<p><span style="color: #00ccff;">Image courtesy of Wikipedia and Stuart Halliday.</span></p>
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		<title>Bankruptcy Lawyer Must Test Client&#8217;s Sense of Urgency</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Moran, Esq.</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[All three consultations on Friday featured clients intent on filing bankruptcy IMMEDIATELY.  Each of them was  certain that they had no time before some disaster would befall them if they didn&#8217;t file bankruptcy.  Yet, as we talked, I concluded the consequences of an immediate filing were worse than the perceived goblins chasing the clients Waiting,...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All three consultations on Friday featured clients intent on filing bankruptcy IMMEDIATELY.  Each of them was  certain that <strong>they had no time</strong> before some disaster would befall them if they didn&#8217;t file bankruptcy.  Yet, as we talked, I concluded the consequences of an immediate filing were worse than the perceived goblins chasing the clients</p>
<p>Waiting, in each case, allowed for a better bankruptcy outcome:  the client could put some time between the filing and an otherwise avoidable transfer to an insider ; get a final judgment in a divorce which would change the asset mix; or collect and consume a stream of income worth more than the available exemption.</p>
<p>Many consumers think that the sheriff will swoop down and pluck their paycheck from their hands <em>within days </em>of being late on a credit card.  They have trouble understanding that creditors invest a lot of time and energy trying to get customers to write them a check before they resort to the courts.</p>
<p>The other misconception that fuels the sense of urgency is a misunderstanding of how a lawsuit works.  They imagine that filing the suit results in coercive collection on the spot.  They are relieved to learn how long is really takes to get even a default judgment.</p>
<p>There are two points you need to make as a counselor at law:</p>
<ol>
<li>Due process takes time: it requires service of a complaint &amp; opportunity to defend.</li>
<li>Debts reduced to judgment are just as dischargeable as they were prior to suit.</li>
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<p>Deliver a short review of constitutional principles, civil procedure, and bankruptcy law, and your client can file bankruptcy when the time is right.</p>
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		<title>Bankruptcy Cases Not Predictably Simple</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Moran, Esq.</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been aghast at the willingness of lawyers brand new to bankruptcy practice to take on cases and issues far beyond their current competence.  I&#8217;ve tried to gently counsel that  both self preservation and the client&#8217;s best interest require the inexperienced to pass on cases beyond their present skill set. I realized just how glib ...]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve been aghast at the willingness of lawyers brand new to bankruptcy practice to take on cases and issues far beyond their current competence.  I&#8217;ve tried to gently counsel that  both <strong>self preservation</strong> and the <strong>client&#8217;s best interest</strong> require the inexperienced to pass on cases beyond their present skill set.</p>
<p>I realized just how glib  and unrealistic that advice could be yesterday when a young lawyer asked about the impact on a Chapter 13 case should the debtor receive life insurance proceeds during the case.  Everything else about the case in question was vanilla simple;  the question of a windfall during a 13 is not, where I practice anyway, an obvious or settled question.  And the death of a loved one not necessarily predictable.</p>
<p>People are what makes this practice perpetually intriguing, and people&#8217;s lives take turns and twists.  We try to look as far down the road as possible, but issues lurk in the turn outs and the cross streets. We can&#8217;t foresee every complication that may arise in even simple cases.  We just have to be prepared to respond.</p>
<p>My thought on the possible life insurance payment was to consider whether the owner of the policy would consider changing the beneficiary designation to leave any proceeds to the debtor in a spend thrift trust.  Then we don&#8217;t need to speculate on what the answer to property of the estate and vesting questions is.</p>
<p>Photo courtesy of <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/aelse/1211358359/" target="_blank">notelse</a>.</p>
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